Reading more about bonobos... They are fascinating. They believe in "make love not war" right? and that makes their society well oiled and smooth right? That and them being female dominated offcourse. In contrast humans view sex as something wrong.Sex is controlled as much as possible in all societies. There are all sorts of taboos on all sorts of sex.
Hmmm okay, Bonobos engage in paedophilia. They engage in sex even between adult and juvenile regularly, for all combinations and age n gender. This goes to show how anthropomorphising animals and making them good apes and bad apes can back fire eh?
I ve always felt paedophilia is the worst crime ever. The worstest ever ever, most disgusting ,horrid etc. It kinda screws up the child for life. It is psychologically very damaging.
Then why doesn't this damage Bonobo babies? You may ask how do I know that it doesn't damage them? But if it did - wouldn't each and every bonobo be damaged then? So safe assumption. (Well is it same as dogs don't get damaged by rape but humans do. BTW according to scientists dogs don't rape. again its mostly primates and some duck, goose and bottlenose dolphins that rape. most species dont).
Actually
1) Even closely related species are very very different cognitively. Each of the primates have very different social structure and sexual behaviour in nature. So what is bad for one may not be for another. you know good and bad is man made and not exactly universal.
2) We dont know nothing about animal psychology, we can never know what they feel, if they are sad/depressed/damaged, if they need prozac or a shrink. ( unless we do MRI scans?)
Anyway I am wondering, controversially, may be the problem is human attitude towards sex - poisoned by religion and society. Is paedophilia damage an artificial/societal reaction? are we teaching our youngsters to feel guilty violated , to feel self hatred and loathing? Is it a cultural thing? We give artificial importance to innocence and purity, is this the root of the problem?
Animals do not hide sex from juveniles.
I hate our ads/TV shows becoming over sexed and in your face, I am always worried what effect this has on children and adults. but ... that may be some other kind of perversion and not the same as sex being open in a culture...
Bonobos use sex more like we use a hug or a cuddle. It is used to form deep bonds and is very different from the casual sex that is on the increase in the world today. It is the opposite of one night stands. It is the opposite of objectification of sex. Casual sex is used for anything but to form close bonds. I really cant understand todays movies and serials - how it is so ok to jump into bed with someone/anyone but saying I love you can be such a deal breaker!!
I think Bonobo sex is meaningful sex, even tho it happens very often and it happens between one and all. I think when ever they have sex they are saying I love you :D That may be their secret. That may be the difference between hippies of the 60s and the Bonobos? ( Only speculating... I am kinda anthropomorphising and its always a trap).
And this video, it is strangely heart warming. Shouldn't it be gross and ewww? ( seeing all these school kids smooching IS ewww) but its not. Its touching. wonder why?
http://www.boredpanda.com/first-kiss-strangers-kissing-tatiana-pilieva/
Hmmm okay, Bonobos engage in paedophilia. They engage in sex even between adult and juvenile regularly, for all combinations and age n gender. This goes to show how anthropomorphising animals and making them good apes and bad apes can back fire eh?
I ve always felt paedophilia is the worst crime ever. The worstest ever ever, most disgusting ,horrid etc. It kinda screws up the child for life. It is psychologically very damaging.
Then why doesn't this damage Bonobo babies? You may ask how do I know that it doesn't damage them? But if it did - wouldn't each and every bonobo be damaged then? So safe assumption. (Well is it same as dogs don't get damaged by rape but humans do. BTW according to scientists dogs don't rape. again its mostly primates and some duck, goose and bottlenose dolphins that rape. most species dont).
Actually
1) Even closely related species are very very different cognitively. Each of the primates have very different social structure and sexual behaviour in nature. So what is bad for one may not be for another. you know good and bad is man made and not exactly universal.
2) We dont know nothing about animal psychology, we can never know what they feel, if they are sad/depressed/damaged, if they need prozac or a shrink. ( unless we do MRI scans?)
Anyway I am wondering, controversially, may be the problem is human attitude towards sex - poisoned by religion and society. Is paedophilia damage an artificial/societal reaction? are we teaching our youngsters to feel guilty violated , to feel self hatred and loathing? Is it a cultural thing? We give artificial importance to innocence and purity, is this the root of the problem?
Animals do not hide sex from juveniles.
I hate our ads/TV shows becoming over sexed and in your face, I am always worried what effect this has on children and adults. but ... that may be some other kind of perversion and not the same as sex being open in a culture...
Bonobos use sex more like we use a hug or a cuddle. It is used to form deep bonds and is very different from the casual sex that is on the increase in the world today. It is the opposite of one night stands. It is the opposite of objectification of sex. Casual sex is used for anything but to form close bonds. I really cant understand todays movies and serials - how it is so ok to jump into bed with someone/anyone but saying I love you can be such a deal breaker!!
I think Bonobo sex is meaningful sex, even tho it happens very often and it happens between one and all. I think when ever they have sex they are saying I love you :D That may be their secret. That may be the difference between hippies of the 60s and the Bonobos? ( Only speculating... I am kinda anthropomorphising and its always a trap).
And this video, it is strangely heart warming. Shouldn't it be gross and ewww? ( seeing all these school kids smooching IS ewww) but its not. Its touching. wonder why?
http://www.boredpanda.com/first-kiss-strangers-kissing-tatiana-pilieva/
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